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My funniest memory: Blanche at a wedding (her daughter?)standing next to a nasty, prissy, effeminate caterer. Blanche asks him a question about the preparations and the cater replies with some snotty answer. The two stand staring at each other in hostile silence, then Blanche says, "You're gettin' ready to fly right out of here, aren't ya?"
Forget the name Estelle, She'll always me 'Ma' to me. My daughter called me with the news and it was that dreaded call you don't want to hear. I was just as devistated as when Lucille Ball passed.
I too own every episode on DVD. But what I really love is that it is not just a show for older women. I know people of every age and both men and women that love it. Totally a classic that will never go out of style.
My sister and I love sharing the lines Sophia uses to call Blance ie, "The human mattress" I know it i sa show but it those ladies will always be so very realy to me. God bless everyone of them for the entertainment they have given to so many.
Never funny... I knew the punchlines before they were ever said.
Dorothy had more than one child. She had a daughter named Kate. Maybe Kate was the older child, and Michael was born when Dorothy was in her 20's? At any rate, this is, and always will be, one of my favorite shows.
Hey, I'm No Math Wiz! Not only that, but remember that everytime they did a "flashback" to Dorothy's life as a young wife and mother, it invariably took place in the '40s...40 years ago! Yet her son (whose birth is supposedly the reason she "had to get married") is not quite 30? Makes no sense whatsoever.
I love Golden Girls but there's something strange about one of the episodes where Dorothy's son comes back home after separating from his wife, Dorothy is saying something to one of the girls about the fact that Michael (her sitcom son) is almost 30 years old. If she got "knocked up" when she was a teen, which is what Sophia is constantly saying, then how is Dorothy in her mid-late 50's in the show? This would have made her in her 20's when she got pregnant and had Michael, would it not? Did the writers of the show think that people would never just sit there one day and do that math? hmmm...Just an interesting thing I was thinking of one day while watching the show.
I'm surprised that Bea,Betty and Rue didn't attend Estelle's funeral.After all they had a close relationship.
I agree completely with cybah -- seasons 1-3 were pretty excellent and then the show sort of went downhill from there. Not that the stories weren't funny, but the humor became more biting, and the characters became really mean to each other.

I think the most genious episode, is "heart attack" from the first season. I like this one because it's told in one big scene -- a dinner, cleanup, and sophia getting symptoms of a heart attack. It takes place entirely in the kitchen, living room, and sophia's bedroom. It reminded me of older shows like maude, where the episode was literally 25 minutes of real time of the characters.

I was ready for the show to end by season 7, though when it actually ended I felt a pit in my stomach.
ah the golden girls. My all time favorite show. I watched the original run on NBC (except for the later years), then watched it in reruns on Lifetime for as long as I can remember. And now I own all the DVD sets, which I have successfully worn two of them out (or scratched to all hell by overplaying them). I think I've seen every episode at least 20 or so times, if not more.

But I digress....

I'm split on when it 'jumped'. There are a few place where it might have:

1. It never jumped. It ended gracefully. (if you don't consider Golden Palace its virtual 8th season)

2. Dorothy Got Married. Yes this is the END, but the ending could have been different.

3. Bad Writing (between the 89-93 seasons). It just seemed like they changed the writers too much. (this is WELL documented) The writing was great in Seasons 1-3 (85-87), Got a bit shotty in Season 4, by Season 5 it was just bad. Not that the show wasn't funny anymore, but it seemed to be where the continuum of the characters started to fail. Nothing made sense, episode to episode. Then by 6 & 7, they had changed writers so much, they could have spun the show into its own spinoff using the same exact charcaters and actors, but in a different setting, as it did not follow the same premise as the original 1985 run did. The characters just evolved TOO MUCH.

As documented, it slowly started to decline because the original show writers, Susan Harris, Kathy Speer, and Terry Grossman stopped writing many of the episodes. You could always tell what episodes were written by one of them, because the characters went back to the original 1985 written characters.

Again I am not saying I don't like all 7 seasons, OR they weren't barrels of laughs, because they were! I just think the first three seasons where better, but I still watch them all.
I thought that too, but later I saw that when she said, "and I promise not to tell that deep dark secret that you told me," he said "I appreciate that."
If he hadn't told her that secret, wouldn't he had asked, "What secret?"
Stans brother was not impotent. Dorothy announced that as a way to "get back", so to speak, for asking her to babysit his kids.
Fantastic, despite the major inconsistancies like something major happening like weddings or illnessess and only one of their children or none show up. Blanche said she had four sons when she offered one of them to Dorothy so they could keep the Mercedes, but they never showed up. Someone should have been hired to keep track of things. Reunions and funerals being held in Florida when they wouldn't be in real life. Sophia's secret marriages and broken engagements. Sometimes she says she was in an arrainged marriage with Dorothy's father, sometimes she left Sicily to marry the man she loved. The most ridiculous thing was the casting of all- American looking, midwestern sounding McClain Stevenson as Stan's brother.
Stan looks like his last name would be Zbornak, and he sounds like he grew up in New York like Dorothy and Sophia. Also, if Stan's bro was impotent, why was he hot to spend a weekend with a sexy stewardess? Things like that drive me crazy, but this is still one of the best shows ever made.
Casey, I agree that it is odd that Stan Dorothy never mention their child. I also find it odd that you left our Kate, their other child. They didn't mention either of them.

There were many inconsistencies (sp?). Some little some big. The valedictorian one was pretty big. Still something worked with GG since so many of us LOOOVE IT!!

We are entitles to our opinion, but Betty Whie was not a one note actor. I belive she was type cast as a Rose type person; so much to the point that we forget about her being Sue Ann Nevins and all the other wonderful characters she has played. She may not be as talented as Bea, but she is definitely not one note.
I think that it is interesting that the last poster mentioned the inconsistancies that took place throughout the sereis. If I was to take the time, I could probably think of dozens! However, there is one that really sticks out in my mind! On one early episode, it was mentioned that Rose was the Valor Dictorian of her graduating class of St. Olif High School. In a later episode, she mentioned that she was sick towards the end of the year and thus never graduated! In my opinion, if you want to see a show with my inconsistancies than this one, you would have to watch the "Flintstones"! Incidentially, the "Flintstones" also had controdicting episodes about who graduated from what high school when and where!
Durrell, Bea Arthur is not as good a looker as Rue McLanahan(sp?) but Ms. Arthur was the strong glue holding the show together! The Golden Palace there lacked her and there wasn't much show without her. It was Betty White that was the worst of the four (Nanette Fabray was another good actress who could probably played Rose good). All of Rose's subplots (at least her part in them)seem gratutious or unnecessary thanks to White's one note acting!

On other points I do not mind nearly
any of the many inconsistencies pointed out on these boards after all GG was only a tv show but there is one that bothers me very badly. I hate Stan often showing up briefly and he and Dorothy do not mention their son together most of the time he does. It is unsophisticated writing for the two not to mention their child together in the brief time they reunite! True, Blanche had like two daughters she rarely mentioned but we didn't see her husband she had these two girls by very often so it was ok for her not to mention her offspring more often.

Jessica, I wouldn't call GG an 80's version of Sex and the City!
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The Golden Girls
First Show 1985
Slot Time 9 pm
Last Show 1992
Slot Day Saturday
Genre Comedy
Network NBC
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